Eurovision 2018 • General Discussion

[Aglan]

First of all these three shows were so much better than in Ukraine (Sorry not sorry) and now the result:

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26th I think this is really underrated but the running oder just would never help it´s chances
25th Well this is kinda suprising to me I was thinking the televote would be higher for Saara but ok.
24th I am happy Surie wasn´t last good job even after what happened on stage.
23rd Well ever since it got released I was saying this would end up in bottom 5, Tbh it should be last imo.
22nd I would prefer it much more without the "pause".
21st It grew on me so I am sad it ended up so low :/
20th I think it´s underrated. The fact they ended up much higher last year is sad
19th Well the fact it qualified must nice for them but tbh I didn´t really care how well this will do.
18th flagnethrelands Really overrated.
17th Last year my winner was 15th this year 17th. What the jury was thinking putting this last.
16th I still think there is too much happening on the stage.
15th Yay I got it right! also how this won the semi-final?
14th Underrated!
13th I think this should be higher I would swap it with Italy.
12th Well I happy the televote put it really high cause this song grew on me the most I think.
11th Well this for me is the most overrated in the final he has great voice but the song is so boring
10th Twice in top 10 in a row. I must say the staging saved this song
9th Happy for it!
8th I was thinking this would be higher
7th I hope I am not the only one who laugh out loud when they got their televote.
6th I am shook! My dad who doesn´t care about Eurovisin sat with me till the end and I am so happy that we finished so high! I hope we can keep this up!
5th Like I said I would swap it with  France.
4th Good for you Germany. I am glad that they finally got a great result since 2012
3rd Unlike Sweden I didn´t mind this being high with the juries but I think they overrated him a little
2nd Well look at us and Cyprus getting our best results! I love the song and I would prefer it to Israel but second plce it great to!
Also this video is amazing!

1st Not fan of the song but Netta sells it well. Happy for her and for Israel overall!
See you next year in Israel!

[nijat]

A review on the results of Eurovision Song Contest 2018 from Azerbaijan:

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The nicest surprises of the night have been the results of Austria and Italy, especially the latter. I haven't expected any of them in top 10 and they got 3rd and 5th places, respectively. However, Italian song deserved much more points from juries.

I thought Norway would do much better but contrary to my expectations, it was out of top ten. Ironically, Norway won the second semi-final. It was one of the songs I found very cheesy, basic and generic though.

Albania was one of the nice surprises of the Grand Final as well and I was very happy with the fact that Azerbaijani jury gave them 12 points. Kudos to Mübariz Tağıyev. (he is a legendary rock singer of Azerbaijan and was a chair jury yesterday)

The fact that Azerbaijani juries voted for high quality songs such as Hungary, Bulgaria and Albania made me feel so delighted.

Portugal absolutely did not deserve the last place, O Jardim was such a classy and touching song.

Even though Germany was not in my top 10, I was really happy for its placing, Michael has been a source of such a nice surprise.

The big gap between televoting and jury voting for Denmark and Sweden were very surprising. I knew Sweden wouldn't do very well with televoting, but 21 points were incredibly unexpected. On the other hand, I haven't predicted Denmark to do this well with televoting.

Both jury points and televoting points for Australia (especially, the latter) were unexpected. 'Australia gets top 10 no matter what song they send' myth has finally failed.

Ukraine, Serbia (both were expected tho), France, Bulgaria, the Netherlands and Hungary were underrated whereas Moldova and Ireland were criminally overrated.

Azerbaijan missed the final by just 1 place. Unfortunately, there was 14 points margin between X my heart and Monsters.

Unfortunately, 'Toy' will remain in my memory as one of the worst winners of Eurovision history. I hope Israel won't take this moment to politicize the issue on the 'Jerusalem as a capital of the country'.

I am thankful to ESC 2018 for making me acquainted with AWS and Viszlat nyar. Regardless of the result, I am proud of you! One of the best songs for me of the whole ESC history!

See you all next year in Israel!

[NoobChicken]

me seeing my faves flopping:

[ROBERT 💙]

SuRie, all I can say is firstly, she held her nerve and continued on and I commend her for that, especially when for her personally having her paternal grandfather's parents killed in the holocaust and some lunatic comes on screaming the word "nazis".

Her professionalism is an example of proof of if you attend theatre school here in the UK - as I personally know myself.

Firstly,



I've loved Netta's entry from the start, I've thought in the back of my mind that she was a winning contender always and I'm really happy for her!


- I know that you may be sad that it wasn't a win, but look at the fact that you've just overcame 40 countries and finished the runner-up in a contest watched by 204 million people. She did an amazing job and I'm so happy for her that she finished where she did. I personally thought it was either Cyprus or Israel and either of the two I'd be content with. So, huge congratulations for her accomplishment ♥

[Dimitris]

ok time for reactions on the results

Absolutely robbed, deserved way better than last
Also robbed, but quite expected tbh
I'm sad for her, especially because of what happened but her reaction to it showed how professional she is.

I didn't expect her to finish higher but being in the final was good enough
FUCKING ROBBED, they were amazing live
Meh overrated actually
This was okay, deserved place I guess.
I actually like this a bit more but still, deserved place as well.
Good song, very nice performance but I wouldn't want this higher so its place is fine.
ACTUALLY OVERRATED, but I'm glad he didn't even finish top 10 lmao
This grew on me so much and it was in my top 6 of the final even, deserved higher tbh.
This also deserved higher than what it got
Such a great song Wouldn't mind this higher but I'm okay with its placement.
I don't love the song, the performance was flawless so I'm fine with its place.
Lmao this was probably the best pefromance, staging-wise. Well deserved place in the top 10.
YASSS I thought this was gonna flop but I'm glad it got what it deserved with the televoting
I'm so happy for Elina, she was one of my two perfect scores from the final Would've been good to have her higher but 8th is good
I actually laughed when Sweden got low in the televoting. I like the song but didn't deserve top 5 tbh.
This actually grew on me a lot but still don't think it deserved to be that high. Happy for the country though getting their best result
I don't particularly love this but it's okay, but I wouldn't place it top 5 oops
Wow this getting so high had me shook. Great song nevertheless
Ok I thought this was going to win for a moment. I love the song but I don't think it deserved to win. Third place is fine though

And here comes the most important part.

I WAS SO FUCKING NERVOUS THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE VOTING OMFG I'm happy that my favorite got such a great place and that we finally got a 2nd place as our best result Still, I was disappointed that we didn't win but of course I'm happy for Eleni for achieving such an amazing result She definitely made us proud!

Okay this was one of my big favorites but this winning was quite an obvious one, even if it fell on the odds the past week. But it's definitely a great song, and Netta deserved it, so congratulations

See you in Israel, I guess. Hopefully I can finally manage to go next year to Eurovision

[fabbi]

Let's see:

Portugal: It has always been expected that they won't get high. But last place id still a bit too much (or less).
Tbh. I think in the televoting they were definitely saved by the diaspora voting. (I mean I'm not sure how much () and () would normally like a song like that)
Finland: Aand the second place curse goes on lmao.
She's very underrated, but I must say that I didn't really like her vocally in the final.
UK Well, it's been pretty predictable she wouldn't get out of the bottom 3. In fact she was my last here and I guess without the stage invasion (which I first didn't even get lol) that'd have been the result. I must say that I loved her reaction and especially she just went on (and even almost perfect!)
Slovenia: That's a pretty good result already. Tho the break didn't really help here, I guess. Thats mainly as we already knew it's gonna happen.
Spain I don't know what you're all seeing (or not seeing there lol). To me it's a quite surprising outcome (for the song at least). However I can't really say too much positive things there. I mean the staging was pretty bad, and what they were wearing didn't look the best to me.
Hungary: I'very actually no words there lol. I'm just happy they didn't finish in bottom 5 as that was my expectation since Metal isn't exactly a Eurovision genre. But then again I'm disappointed they got so few televoting points - probably because fans of such music aren't watching Eurovision.
Australia Jessica did alright imo, yet she got underrated. In fact I wished we could change her result with Isaiah's from last year...
I guess Australia's result really count von the juries since the televoters are absolutely not into them. It's nor that I want them out myself, but I hope the EBU can read the signs because I can see the televoting soon them.
Serbia: That's what I call a pleasant surprise. I wad expecting them much lower.
And ofc our went there...
the Netherlands: Not gonna lie those dancers were still awkward af, but for a reason I liked them more than on Thursday. All in all a deserved result.
Ukraine: I still think that this is a top 10 worthy staging, but then again it was pretty clear he would stay out of the top 15.
I'm still very disappointed in it. For once they send an actually top 10 worthy entry and are ofc finishing far away...
Ireland I was expecting him higher actually, but 16th is an okay result. And I mean it's still their best result since 2011.
Norway Yas! I'm so happy he finished so low.
Bulgaria Wow they just got the worst result in a final ever. Imo it's an okay result.
France I always knew they weren't going to win. But when they got the first of the evening I was doubting that for a moment (but not much more). However finishing 13th is undeserved.
Lithuania Omg she was crying towards the end! I had some hopes she may reach the top 10, but 12th is a great result as well (especially for a county like Lithuania).
Albania Wait wait he didn't just get almost into top 10 too? I'm really happy with that and even more as Albania isn't exactly a successful participant. It's been also a pleasant surprise seeing him on top of the scoreboard.
Moldova: I'm actually indifferent there. I guess the staging had a huge impact on the result.
Denmark: In your face juries! I was actually disappointed when they ende up with only 58 jury points, but then luckily the televoters gave almost 200. I'm so getting Poland 2016 vibes there. )
Estonia: Elina had another stimmig performance (btw. did anyone of you try singing along with her?). I find her a little bit underrated.
Sweden: I was laughing out loud when he got only 21 points from the public. And tbh. the second worst result since 2011 is absolutely deserved. Benjamin's imo even a bit overrated. I mean the staging was amazing, but those vocals...
Czech Republic: Omg where did that one come from? And omg he really made that jump.
Yaaay top 5 I was very disappointed when they ende up with only 66 jury points as they'd be another important winner considering the song's message. Tbh. when we entered the podium of the televoters I was hoping for them to be third just for the tension to rise to the max!
I also love their result as they didn't do anything special on stage (and the lyrics were rather distracting and became annoying).
Germany: That came unexpected af as well. It was a very beautiful performance (at least until the last part where the wall behind became red with the circles - which imo destroyed it completely...)
Btw. when did it happen the last time that 2 big 5 countries reached the top 5?
Austria: Well, I mean César sung very good. Yet he's still very overrated. I'm okay with a lower top 10, but not too 3...
Cyprus Eleni again did great and totally deserved to get the best result for Cyprus in the contest ever. Also I love her reaction to Netta winning.
Israel: I was rooting for her and I'm happy she actually took it. I wasn't actually expecting her to make it in the end. But it's a totally deserved win.
However I really dislike the way they announced her as winner...


Tbh. I think next year's contest will be held in Jerusalem. Thats not only because Netta said that, but also Benjamin Netanjahu etc.
Tho I think Tel Aviv would probably be the better one (already because it's more used to LGBT).

[Vaios]

Well, I'm still really dissapointed that Cyprus didn't win because everything seemed to be right for them and they came so close... On the other side, I'm really PROUD of Eleni who was representing all the Greeks at the same time
A real queen that wrote Eurovision history and proved that small countries like Cyprus can score high and win!!

A great song but not a winner for me... Congrats for your fourth win tho

Yasss for Sweden, Czech Republic, Austria (big surprise) for placing that high

Glad they didn't get as high as expected

flagaustralia SO UNDERRATED
(thank God televoting saved Melovin)

[HATÅRI]

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HOLY fucking shit we did it. I am still comprehending, it is a dream come true. Qualifying in 2015 felt like a miracle, but it comes nowhere near what I'm feeling right now. The show ended at 2am and tens of thousands of people went out dancing in the streets of Tel Aviv, celebrating like David Ben Gurion just announced our independence. I AM SCREAMING. WE WON. Do I love the song? The answer is definitely not that much. I prefer the last two winners. But I ADMIRE Netta and the song brings me pride. Welcome to Israel!!!
 OMFG YES. I do not care anymore. I was so salty about this song, about the performance, about the love vocals. I don't mind this as a runner-up AT ALL. Honestly this is such a big victory especially when this is 2nd.
I hereby eat my hat. This finished top 3, as my dad predicted. I am shook. I thought my 4th would be underrated, but ended up placing higher than where I placed it.
 I hereby eat my hat, once again. Florian told me this will succeed, but I kept seeing the bottom 10 streak continuing. I loved the performance. Very pleased with the result.
 Nice! My 5th came 5th. Deserved and unexpected, thanks televotes.
 This was not bad and got a very very good result. I saw it coming around 10-20, so that's interesting, definitely.
Televotes were right. He was off live. I don't agree with either placement (2nd nor 23rd), but the combined result is not bad.
SHOCK. Fuck, I was sure this is going for top 2. I am very confused as to how this did not resonate with the audience. I actually apprecuated this song more and more before the grand final and it just made me more secure that it's gonna win. Surprising, ngl.
9th! Nice! I promised Rasmussen he will win the semi, which is something he was very far from achieving, but that's a great result nonetheless.
It was pretty nice. 10th is a tad too high.
 FUCK YEAH. I was SO happy that it qualified. Vocally on point. Nobody on here believed me when I said this will get their best result since "Suus" back in December. Slay, Eugent. Earned it.
 My entire top 8 (/43) except Hungaryband and Portugal in the top half of the final. I am so fucking happy I can't even describe it. This being higher than 13th - 16th, which are all songs that were in the top 3 of the betting odds close to the final date. I love this, and Ieva is my wife. The guy on stage with her is just a paid actor istg.
 My 13th is 13th, too. Nice. Expected this to be top 10.
Something was wrong about this. Dropped a lot in my top 43 in the past few days.
 Yay I got this right. I said "barely top 15". Also, WTF DID HE WIN THE SEMI AND FINISH LOWER HALF IN THE FINAL?
 He kinda does live. He knows it, too.
 Televotes overappreciated this.
No comment. Dropped a lot for me.
YEAHHH HIGHER THAN AUSTRALIA. Nice going Serbia.
Told y'all.
 This was so lively! Best live performance and deserved qualifucation. 
Obviously. Expected lower, actually, maybe.
 Was cute, not special... Legitimate placingn
 She handled the interruption very well and professionally. Still not a good song and a mediocre performance
 25th... I mean second last. Keep slaying and staying second, Saara. We love you!
THE FUCK. DON'T EVEN TALK TO ME.

Absolute masterpiece. Robbed.

[MaRtIn]

This has gone up as one of my favorite remixes/tracks of all time. So happy to hear this during the opening.

Can we have ESC every year with Petra presenting on stage with Filomena hosting the green room? Those two would be great together!

The interval acts were underwhelming overall. I did like Salvador's new song, but that's about the only thing to like with the intervals. For a first time host, Portugal did a great job overall in showcasing their country while continuing to entertain the crowd.

The voting sequence was so exciting and unpredictable. It was 2011/2016 levels of drama. And I lived for the big moments during it.

My thoughts on the finalists:

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26th-11th:

39 points is a respectable score for a last placed entry, considering that often in the past, our last placers rarely get a double digit score, so Portugal should be proud of their representatives.

Saara Aalto seems to be destined to get second in some way of form. She was the second to last country to be announced. She was drawn to the second half of the final. Finally, she places second to last in the final. In such a strong pool of acts, Finland reasonably faded in the background, but Saara should be happy that she was able to live her dream. Can't wait to see what the future holds for her.

That stage invasion was scary, but SuRie handled it like a professional. Before the incident, it was joyous but uninspiring. Then when it happened, SuRie sang like her life depended on it. She performed with more energy and I saw the determination in her face. SuRie will become a remembered figure among Eurovision fans.

Yes, performing second is an inevitable fail, but I feel like regardless of running order, Spain was never going to have a favorable result. The staging was a disappointment, but the best part about it is their chemistry, so I suppose that was where they put the focus. Ultimately, it was sweet, but that spark was just... a spark, not an inferno.

The performance was a lot more slick overall, but that technical "fail" induced cringe and was poorly timed this time. This result is fine for Slovenia.

Underrated, but it's a divisive genre. I had high hopes for it, but I'm not even disappointed in the result. Congrats on bringing metal to the final at least. Shoutout to Shangela for singing "YES GAWD" in the growling metal voice.

Ouch! I'm upset she placed worse than Isaiah, but with her performance, I understand. Even though she was a bit looser, her voice was still strained, her high notes were not smooth, and she relied too much on the audience interaction instead of delivering an impactful song. It's really been difficult to keep up after Dami Im's legacy. Maybe it's time to withdraw and commit to starting Eurovision Asia.

At this point, I'm indifferent about the entry. Reaching the final is what it deserves at best. Can't wait for Filomena and the old man's wedding.

Now that I see him perform for the second time, it's grown on me. It's a competent country song any American can appreciate.

I'm appalled this placed last with the juries. Surely, he wasn't an unmemorable opening the final, especially with that dramatic rise from the coffin. Bless the televote.

I relied too much on the odds thinking this would finish in the top 5. It's a pleasure to see Ireland back in the final after long time, and I'm sure the Irish people are proud of Ryan.

Good placement. It doesn't have winner's vibes. Alexander seems like he's just there to have a good time and take on the obligation of representing Norway again.

Wow! Bulgaria gets mid-table placement for the first time. Honestly, it's underrated. They have powerful harmonies but at the same time, their voices can stand out individually, especially Zhana. I wish them best of luck in their futures.

Another wow. They were a stylish couple, and the staging was done tastefully from the low-lying fog to the warm lighting. The crowd going along with the simple hand gestures is a visually impactful sight. I expected France to at least place in the top 10 based on hype, but I personally expected upper half, so I'm satisfied. This is another result that France should be happy with. Well done!

Ieva is so heartwarming and adorable. Ieva should be proud for giving Lithuania one of their better results.

It's official: Eugent has my favorite voice this year. Everytime he hits those high notes in the end, I get an eargasm. This is a performance I played on repeat the most this week. The overall composition of the song is so uplifting and endearing. He made me wish I got to hear him speak/sing/whisper in person. Okay, that's enough. Congrats Albania!

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TOP 10:

Well done on another top 10 finish! Despite the outdated song, they were able to elevate it with a quirky and hilarious performance. I got to see a behind the scenes video of their choreography, and I have to give them huge credit for pulling off such a polished performance.

I can't believe the juries underrated them. Like what went wrong in the jury show? In the live show, they were so full of strength and determination. I felt the adrenaline. Again, I'm pleased Denmark gave us a piece of Nordic identity. Ninth place is very deserving.

My pre-show favorite, but admittedly, I've fallen less in love with it after the live performance. It just looked too perfect that I felt distant. I still appreciate the visual and musical beauty it offered in the Eurovision stage. Bravo!

In my opinion, he moved a lot looser and more naturally in the final compared to the semis, so I liked the performance more this time. However, seeing him so high in the juries I feared another Swedish win. And then the 21 points from the televote came. I just had to let out a scream/laugh of shock. Never have I imagined Sweden getting this low a score from the televote. I predicted a top 10 finish, but certainly not a messy result that contributed to that. Their top 5 streak may be broken, but their top 10 streak isn't. Maybe it's time to rethink their approach.

Very groovy! Mikolas did not hold back in the acrobatics, the humor, and the fun tonight. I am so proud of Czech Republic and Mikolas Josef! Considering this is only their second final appearance, getting sixth is a huuuuge deal. If they continue to commit, they could continue to be regulars in the contest with satisfactory results. Perhaps this may make Slovakia return if they get wind of their neighbors result (doubtful). Still disappointed we never got to see a reaction to them getting a set of 12 points yet.

Before I continue, can we talk about how two Big 5 countries are in the top five? That's a stunning feat, a first since the rule was introduced. France, Germany, and Italy stepping it up this year as we expect out of the Big 5. Happy for them! Also, had the UK accepted what would eventually be Austria's entry, we could've had the UK in the top 3. That would've been THREE Big 5 countries on the top five.

Underrated by juries (shame), but I knew that the televote would respond to the sentiment of the song. It was a little weird that after the energetic and/or heartwarming songs of the preceding entries, the last song performed is basically a sad reality check, and I think that's what helped Italy on the televote. Out of all the alleged "political" entries, Italy conveyed their message the strongest with lyrics visualized and the contrast between their voices.

This is one of my favorites of the night. It was just so touching and endearing. Bringing a wall to visualize his story was a great decision in my opinion. He was able to stand about he was the only one to bring a screen, and the projections on the screen were done well. It captivated me. I am so pleased Germany's streak of flops ended with a strong fourth place. I'm sure the German fans are ecstatic for him.

I mean, he sang great, he looked great, the staging looked great, the song is good, but winning the jury vote is... odd. He wasn't particularly a fan favorite so that was a huge surprise to see him do so well. It's overrated, but at the end of the night, Austria should be proud of their best result since Conchita Wurst's win. I have to commend Austria on their excellent five-year qualification streak. Let's see if they can keep it up next year.

Gutted. Going into the final, this had a great chance to win. Eleni maintained the energy of her performance from the semifinals. During the voting, Eleni was very emotional, and I got Kristian Kostov flashbacks because both really wanted the victory for their country. Regardless, this is Cyprus' best result ever. Maybe Eleni can return two years later and pull a Dima Bilan so that Cyprus can finally win. I can't see Cyprus having a longer drought than Portugal.

Congratulations, Netta. I suppose I was delaying the inevitable. Going in, Israel already sounded so different by Eurovision standards with the different human sound effects, the use of a looper, and the clucking. Unlike Malta, the message of the song managed to come through in the delivery of the lyrics. I didn't want it win, but at the same time, it deserved a high placement, so I'm not mad at it winning. It's catchy, sassy, and innovative. I hope we get to go to Tel Aviv next year.

P.S. - It's also worth mentioning that "Toy" charted in the United States at #195 on iTunes! Well done, Netta!

[inactivo (nq era)]

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