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Post by kastrix89 on Mar 23, 2020 23:24:21 GMT 1
All i have heard is people moan its been cancelled yet none of hou will ley your voice be heard and sign a petition to get 2020 back. Broadcasters didnt want it. So use your voice and sign else this community is dead. Says the one which basically thinks a pandemic of all things will end in summer. And that things will settle down super fast because you've decided that. Eurovision 2020 being cancelled is indeed bittersweet for the fans, bitter for the fact that it made already history by being the first ever cancelled edition in 64 years, but sweet due to the fact that the contest cares far more about the contestants AND fans' health and well-being rather than the show to go on. Also, "sign, else this community is dead" - people are aware a petition will do absolutely nothing. It never did anything for Elvana, nor for Margaret, not for people wanting to move the contest away from Israel last year, it'll never work in this case either. You're literally wasting your time by making people sign something it'll never work. People are sad, but they're realistic, unlike you thinking a pandemic will end whenever you want it. No one saw this coming. Yet you're blaming people for not standing up for a situation already confirmed as cancelled? Let alone sign an incredibly useless petition? Really? This community ain't dead, they just accepted the reality and moved on. A thing I'd advise you should do as well. With all that said, I'm out. Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say
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Post by Dylan on Mar 23, 2020 23:37:36 GMT 1
Says the one which basically thinks a pandemic of all things will end in summer. And that things will settle down super fast because you've decided that. Eurovision 2020 being cancelled is indeed bittersweet for the fans, bitter for the fact that it made already history by being the first ever cancelled edition in 64 years, but sweet due to the fact that the contest cares far more about the contestants AND fans' health and well-being rather than the show to go on. Also, "sign, else this community is dead" - people are aware a petition will do absolutely nothing. It never did anything for Elvana, nor for Margaret, not for people wanting to move the contest away from Israel last year, it'll never work in this case either. You're literally wasting your time by making people sign something it'll never work. People are sad, but they're realistic, unlike you thinking a pandemic will end whenever you want it. No one saw this coming. Yet you're blaming people for not standing up for a situation already confirmed as cancelled? Let alone sign an incredibly useless petition? Really? This community ain't dead, they just accepted the reality and moved on. A thing I'd advise you should do as well. With all that said, I'm out. Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say The number of cases has risen to over 300,000 and you actually believe it will be gone by summer? Sorry but at this rate it won't be gone by May. The cases just keep increasing (alongside recoveries, which is a good thing) everyday and that's not going to change very soon. You could say that it'll all be done with by May but there's no guarantee about that. Even the Olympics may be postponed until 2021 or 2022 because of this. There's no point in trying to get the EBU to change their mind because even if they wanted to go ahead with it, do you honestly believe the Dutch government would approve of it too? After all, it is held in The Netherlands, and the EBU has to abide by restrictions put in place. I'm sad too, as are the vast majority of Eurovision fans, but there is nothing we can do about it. You don't seem to be listening when we keep saying that health is above all - the contest can wait until 2021. Besides, the forum will have their own Eurovision during the exact same week, and it's looking to be amazing! Look forward to that instead, you'll still get to appreciate all 2020 songs as if it was the actual contest. The reason(s) why we don't sign your petition are obvious, and have been stated many times. (Btw, don't take this as an attack or so. But I just think you need to consider why the EBU cancelled it and that there's nothing we can do about it now )
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Post by Callum on Mar 23, 2020 23:46:29 GMT 1
All i have heard is people moan its been cancelled yet none of hou will ley your voice be heard and sign a petition to get 2020 back. Broadcasters didnt want it. So use your voice and sign else this community is dead. I don't think you realise how catastrophic this would be for the contest in any case. The EBU simply cannot generate money out of thin air to pay for delegations. Cancellation was costly enough, an alternative contest or empty-studio 2020 will simply put them in even more debt. Not only that, but we do have a global health emergency going on at the moment so the priority is to deal with that! Going ahead with 2020 will be a death sentence for the contest. Taking one year out will be so much better than practically having every year after 2020 cancelled.
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Post by Aliya on Mar 24, 2020 1:16:56 GMT 1
Says the one which basically thinks a pandemic of all things will end in summer. And that things will settle down super fast because you've decided that. Eurovision 2020 being cancelled is indeed bittersweet for the fans, bitter for the fact that it made already history by being the first ever cancelled edition in 64 years, but sweet due to the fact that the contest cares far more about the contestants AND fans' health and well-being rather than the show to go on. Also, "sign, else this community is dead" - people are aware a petition will do absolutely nothing. It never did anything for Elvana, nor for Margaret, not for people wanting to move the contest away from Israel last year, it'll never work in this case either. You're literally wasting your time by making people sign something it'll never work. People are sad, but they're realistic, unlike you thinking a pandemic will end whenever you want it. No one saw this coming. Yet you're blaming people for not standing up for a situation already confirmed as cancelled? Let alone sign an incredibly useless petition? Really? This community ain't dead, they just accepted the reality and moved on. A thing I'd advise you should do as well. With all that said, I'm out. Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say First and foremost, calling me "bitchy" for telling the truth about the situation we're in ain't a nice touch, especially since we're talking forumer to forumer, not you and your best friend or you with anyone else in the society you grew up in. Tone down the language when you speak to any of us in that aspect, thank you very much. Second of all, you don't have a literal clue on what you're talking about and your commentary shows just how wrong you are, how much will you'd have to continue a show and let all the people present there in danger of the coronavirus, leaving aside the fact that The Netherlands is among the more affected countries. EBU cancelled it for good reasons, you're just failing to see the reality besides your delusional ideals or "what could happen ifs". This ain't fanfiction, this is real life. Grow up and accept the reality, the best you're getting from this whole thing is literally that something else they plan to air for the dates. Also... not doing my homework, you say? My country is currently affected with 500+ confirmed cases and so far 5 deaths, don't have me talking about the situation in Italy and Spain. I did enough homework to figure out that what you aspire for ain't gonna happen and the quarantine helps us a lot with the pandemic. (Also, to my fellow forumers, wash your hands and use disinfectant regularly, thank you ) Third and lastly, the fact that you've personally called people from different broadcasters just to fulfill your ideals in spite of a virus lurking around sincerely makes you the real bad guy - you don't care about the people, the fans or even yourself health-wise as long as the contest airs. You're basically insulting a whole fandom because they ain't doing your way, and when people tell you the whole truth with evidences upfront (literally Google is your best friend, use it), you're acting like a martyr, like we're the negative ones and not you. How would you feel if solely because of you and only you so many people would be affected by the pandemic? Nothing, I suppose, the contest matters more than anyone's health in your opinion, ain't it? Eurovision can continue without an edition too. Maybe you need to take a break from the Internet for a while and reflect at the situation we're in - we're not meant to judge you directly for trying something, but we're trying to help you realize the reality behind your fictional story you're heavily trying to make. This whole visual right there ain't cute. Oh, at all.
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Post by Aglan on Mar 24, 2020 9:17:54 GMT 1
Sure China has "cotnroled" the virus but that is a country that unlike majority of europe didn't wait for the virus to spread like wildfire and then do something. Also some countries for example Czech Republic DO NOT ALLOW anyone to go out of the country (Even the people who work outside Czech Republic have to decide if they are staying here or in the country they are working in) so most delegation and artist would not even be allowed to go to the Netherlands. As for it will be ok by summer, it won't. The olympics in Japan are now delayed because there is no way atm to get rid of the virus in such a short amount of time. We are all fans here but like we don't want to risk this virus spreading more than it already is. You cannot even delay the contest because if you put it in fall, you have olympics and Junior edition and then Albania has already picked their song So there also isn't way how to delay it either. In the end this petition is completly useless. Also my handwriting is bad, nobody needs to see that mess.
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Post by iseendale on Mar 24, 2020 10:15:17 GMT 1
Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say Firstly, it's a bit bold of you to assume that the virus could be gone by the summer by using one single case (which isn't even 100% true but that's another long story). Hell, the SARS that occurred in China lasted for nearly 2 years; the H1N1 pandemic in 2009 lasted for more than a year, let alone the virus pandemic we're experiencing right now. Secondly, how were we not fighting for the contest? Many of us rooted for the 2020 contest to be held at least in another way, and many of us were literally in tears after realizing that it has been cancelled. But at the end we still respect the cancellation because we at least know that the consequences of postponement/having the contest as planned would be more serious than cancellation. Thirdly, if the majority of broadcasters were really that disappointed with the cancellation, why would they not speak up immediately instead of turning to one single person and say that they are actually dissatisfied with it? I understand that you're frustrated that we're not having Eurovision this year, and we're also feeling the same. But why take such huge risks by putting +10,000 people in an arena located in one of the most infected countries? Not trying to be rude in the end but I doubt any kind of petition could change anything, as it's an already-made decision. But hey, looking at the bright side we might have even better songs for 2021 since the already-confirmed artists can have a whole year to work on their songs, so maybe it's for the better (I know I'm a bit late but it had to be said lmao)
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Post by fuerte (inactive) on Mar 24, 2020 10:26:12 GMT 1
Atleast be happy that the EBU have decided to put an online contest iirc. (I read a Greek article that they were proposing an online contest)
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Post by kastrix89 on Mar 24, 2020 11:21:37 GMT 1
Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say First and foremost, calling me "bitchy" for telling the truth about the situation we're in ain't a nice touch, especially since we're talking forumer to forumer, not you and your best friend or you with anyone else in the society you grew up in. Tone down the language when you speak to any of us in that aspect, thank you very much. Second of all, you don't have a literal clue on what you're talking about and your commentary shows just how wrong you are, how much will you'd have to continue a show and let all the people present there in danger of the coronavirus, leaving aside the fact that The Netherlands is among the more affected countries. EBU cancelled it for good reasons, you're just failing to see the reality besides your delusional ideals or "what could happen ifs". This ain't fanfiction, this is real life. Grow up and accept the reality, the best you're getting from this whole thing is literally that something else they plan to air for the dates. Also... not doing my homework, you say? My country is currently affected with 500+ confirmed cases and so far 5 deaths, don't have me talking about the situation in Italy and Spain. I did enough homework to figure out that what you aspire for ain't gonna happen and the quarantine helps us a lot with the pandemic. (Also, to my fellow forumers, wash your hands and use disinfectant regularly, thank you ) Third and lastly, the fact that you've personally called people from different broadcasters just to fulfill your ideals in spite of a virus lurking around sincerely makes you the real bad guy - you don't care about the people, the fans or even yourself health-wise as long as the contest airs. You're basically insulting a whole fandom because they ain't doing your way, and when people tell you the whole truth with evidences upfront (literally Google is your best friend, use it), you're acting like a martyr, like we're the negative ones and not you. How would you feel if solely because of you and only you so many people would be affected by the pandemic? Nothing, I suppose, the contest matters more than anyone's health in your opinion, ain't it? Eurovision can continue without an edition too. Maybe you need to take a break from the Internet for a while and reflect at the situation we're in - we're not meant to judge you directly for trying something, but we're trying to help you realize the reality behind your fictional story you're heavily trying to make. This whole visual right there ain't cute. Oh, at all. Keep up the abuse if it gets you through the day. U clearly read what u want into what im writing as your cleadly gwtging the wrong idea of it. I for one am more intelligent than you in this aspect as i do proper research and not just listen to a company like Google. I contacted the companys and asked if thdy would like the contest to go abead and the majority said yes. Dont shoot the messenger. San madini have come out publicly and said that so go email them with your abuse. Theres no need to to bully people on here just cause they have a different view. If you want to reply keep iy civil wiyjput cslling me names or dont bother at all
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Post by kastrix89 on Mar 24, 2020 11:23:44 GMT 1
Sure China has "cotnroled" the virus but that is a country that unlike majority of europe didn't wait for the virus to spread like wildfire and then do something. Also some countries for example Czech Republic DO NOT ALLOW anyone to go out of the country (Even the people who work outside Czech Republic have to decide if they are staying here or in the country they are working in) so most delegation and artist would not even be allowed to go to the Netherlands. As for it will be ok by summer, it won't. The olympics in Japan are now delayed because there is no way atm to get rid of the virus in such a short amount of time. We are all fans here but like we don't want to risk this virus spreading more than it already is. You cannot even delay the contest because if you put it in fall, you have olympics and Junior edition and then Albania has already picked their song So there also isn't way how to delay it either. In the end this petition is completly useless. Also my handwriting is bad, nobody needs to see that mess. Ive already stated how to postpone the contest u should read my other posts
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Post by kastrix89 on Mar 24, 2020 11:29:09 GMT 1
Well clearly you dont want to fight for the contest unlike the people signing... The fact china have downturned the virus in 8 weeks so the evidence is there that it could be gone by the summer so dont act like your better than me and being all bitchy when you clearly aint done your homework... The fact ive been contacting people from broadcasters all day and most of them actually wanted it postponed.... Only the ebu wanted to cancel it so i know what im talking about clearly you dont. And when i say the community is dead i mean there voices by not showing there disapproval at the cancelling of 2020 but dw clearly most of this forum dont understand.... Or cherish this contest as they say Firstly, it's a bit bold of you to assume that the virus could be gone by the summer by using one single case (which isn't even 100% true but that's another long story). Hell, the SARS that occurred in China lasted for nearly 2 years; the H1N1 pandemic in 2009 lasted for more than a year, let alone the virus pandemic we're experiencing right now. Secondly, how were we not fighting for the contest? Many of us rooted for the 2020 contest to be held at least in another way, and many of us were literally in tears after realizing that it has been cancelled. But at the end we still respect the cancellation because we at least know that the consequences of postponement/having the contest as planned would be more serious than cancellation. Thirdly, if the majority of broadcasters were really that disappointed with the cancellation, why would they not speak up immediately instead of turning to one single person and say that they are actually dissatisfied with it? I understand that you're frustrated that we're not having Eurovision this year, and we're also feeling the same. But why take such huge risks by putting +10,000 people in an arena located in one of the most infected countries? Not trying to be rude in the end but I doubt any kind of petition could change anything, as it's an already-made decision. But hey, looking at the bright side we might have even better songs for 2021 since the already-confirmed artists can have a whole year to work on their songs, so maybe it's for the better (I know I'm a bit late but it had to be said lmao) Firstly evefy virus is different Secondly your not fighting your accepting the descion for somd forum yjing which if the ebu are doing one anyway why wojld you watch on here? Im not saying the virus isnt serious but the alternative hasnt been explored fully Thirdly cause the ebu can fine them Finally im done with the bullying nature of this forum. Please everyone dont nother msging me as no one understands or has even tried to. The lot of you should be ashamed of yourselves to support bullying on herr in a time we sbould be togeyher as the contest states
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