General Eurovision Discussion (2012/2013)

[Rick]

May 21, 2013 21:47:13 GMT 1 Jess said:

Italian televotes revealed.

The EBU ruled out the Italian jury vote on Friday night as the formation of the jury didn’t meet the EBU standards. All of the Italian jury members Paolo Giordano (chairman), Gianni Sibilla, Luca Dondoni, Fabrizio Basso and Luigi Bolognini are all journalists and music critics Whilt the EBU rules state that they should be either a: radio DJ, artist, composer, author of lyrics or music producer. Also all of the jury are made up of male members, which also violates another EBU rule about the jury which says that “There shall be a balance among the members of each National Jury to ensure sufficient representation in terms of gender, age and background”.

Yeah.. according to this website they say that Italy gave only televoting results. Romania then should have gain Points but it got only point
Or how? They have only published the national televoting results because jury wasn't meeting the criterias or they are referring on the given points on 18th May?

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^ They only revealed the televote results and the jury reasults keep secret

[Jan]

I was bored, so I decided to count the results from finalists only and compare them to the real results.
Then I took the results from the non-finalists only and compared them too..

(+X) X places higher than in the real results.
(-X) X places lower than in the real results.
(=) Same place as in the real results.

This is the result:

FINALISTS VOTING ONLY:

01. Denmark: 193 (=)
02. Ukraine: 154 (+1)
03. Azerbaijan: 145 (-1)
04. Norway: 129 (=)
05. Russia: 108 (=)
06. Malta: 99 (+2)
07. Netherlands: 87 (+2)
08. Greece: 76 (-2)
09. Belgium: 56 (+3)
10. Romania: 55 (+3)
11. Hungary: 48 (-1)
12. Georgia: 48 (+3)
13. Moldova: 47 (-2)
14. Sweden: 46 (=)
15. Italy: 46 (-8)
16. Iceland: 38 (+1)
17. Belarus: 37 (-1)
18. Armenia: 32 (=)
19. United Kingdom: 20 (=)
20. Lithuania: 17 (+2)
21. Estonia: 9 (-1)
22. Finland: 6 (+2)
23. France: 4 (=)
24. Ireland: 3 (+2)
25. Germany: 3 (-4)
26. Spain: 2 (-1)

NON-FINALISTS VOTING ONLY:

01. Azerbaijan: 89 (+1)
02. Denmark: 88 (-1)
03. Italy: 80 (+4)
04. Greece: 76 (+2)
05. Russia: 66 (=)
06. Norway: 62 (-2)
07. Ukraine: 60 (-4)
08. Hungary: 36 (+2)
09. Netherlands: 27 (=)
10. Moldova: 24 (+1)
11. Malta: 21 (-3)
12. Sweden: 16 (+2)
13. Belgium: 15 (-1)
14. Germany: 15 (+7)
15. Belarus: 11 (+1)
16. France: 10 (+7)
17. Romania: 10 (-4)
18. Estonia: 10 (+2)
19. Armenia: 9 (-1)
20. Iceland: 9 (-3)
21. Finland: 7 (+3)
22. Spain: 6 (+3)
23. United Kingdom: 3 (-4)
24. Ireland: 2 (+2)
24. Georgia: 2 (-9)
26. Lithuania: 0 (-4)

Any thoughts?

[George]

Non Finalists Voting is better

[Dimitris]

Both are bad

[Deleted]

Lithuania null points from Non-finalists voting

[Deleted]

I distrust Eurovision now. I sent my votes as followed in the final:

Belgium 1
UK 1
Ukraine 1
Ireland 1

10 minutes before voting ended.

5 minutes after voting closed 4 messages:
Thanks for voting, but the voting has already closed.

So they were way too fast, they just want to get in the 3 hours 30 minute mark.
No valid voting confirmation from Jon Ola, before starting, cutting off the reprise song.

And guess what:
Only Ukraine got .



They take my money, but my votes do not count.
I am boycotting Eurovision 2014.

[Daniel]

^Wow that's really unfair

[Rick]

May 23, 2013 12:54:47 GMT 1 @jeffryblight said:

I distrust Eurovision now. I sent my votes as followed in the final:

Belgium 1
UK 1
Ukraine 1
Ireland 1

10 minutes before voting ended.

5 minutes after voting closed 4 messages:
Thanks for voting, but the voting has already closed.

So they were way too fast, they just want to get in the 3 hours 30 minute mark.
No valid voting confirmation from Jon Ola, before starting, cutting off the reprise song.

And guess what:
Only Ukraine got .



They take my money, but my votes do not count.
I am boycotting Eurovision 2014.

They took your money?
I mean they're returning here your money if you vote and your vote is not accepted

Well maybe the line was very occupied

They should go back to the old times when they used to open the televoting from the first song

[Deleted]

May 23, 2013 12:59:12 GMT 1 Daniel said:

^Wow that's really unfair

I distrust the voting, either Azerbaijan has won or Ukraine, but Denmark is I guess a corrupted win, it's too logical.

They just disguised it with some low points and stuff.

Russia not giving points to Belarus is impossible.
Then a mix-up with Georgia and Belarus from Azerbaijan.

It's too weird.
Money thiefs, I say boycot Eurovision 2014.

I hope many countries will withdraw after this scandal, as well as the TeliaSonera scandal.


Also Ireland ending up last with only 5 points, is impossible, with the UK only giving . No this is too weird.

Either votes weren't counted valid, because they didn't ask Jon Ola if there was a valid voting, they jumped to the voting.

It might explain voting mishaps, like camera mash-ups, Lena misdoing the ....