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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Apr 10, 2018 14:53:26 GMT 1
if you use the full-body picture of the band, then, please, use also the same for Bebe, whilst if you use the upper-body pic of the band, then, please, do the same for Bebe  Thank's!  I can't really promise that... It depends on how the image will look better. Do what you can... I just think it would look better in general, if both had the same type of picture used, but if it's not possible, then ok... |
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Post by mimisthesc on Apr 10, 2018 14:56:55 GMT 1
Indeed, it might seem weird but the rules say that covers are allowed and also in such a case, since the band is from  Latvia, then the entry can represent the country. It might seem "lame" indeed, as you're saying, but it's still allowed. but it technically is not a cover, it wasn't officially released (official covers are e.g. Leona Lewis with "Run" or Ellie Goulding with "Your Song") and Bebe was the artist of the "original" version as well. If this gets allowed then for example cover performances of casting shows should be allowed as well (if they aren't so far) because it's basically the same situation Nobody said that cover performances of casting shows are not allowed.  As long as the artist is from the country and the original version of the song (or any other cover of it) has not been sent before, the entry is eligible. We've even had some, for instance  Montenegro in WWWSC #53. And this was the entry back then:
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Post by Julian on Apr 10, 2018 14:59:51 GMT 1
but it technically is not a cover, it wasn't officially released (official covers are e.g. Leona Lewis with "Run" or Ellie Goulding with "Your Song") and Bebe was the artist of the "original" version as well. If this gets allowed then for example cover performances of casting shows should be allowed as well (if they aren't so far) because it's basically the same situation Nobody said that cover performances of casting shows are not allowed. As long as the artist is from the country and the original version of the song (or any other cover of it) has not been sent before, the entry is eligible. We've even had some, for instance  Montenegro in WWWSC #53. And this was the entry back then:
Well imo cover performances of casting shows shouldn't be allowed because covers aren't allowed in ESC either but I'm okay with casting performances then I still don't think the Latvian entry is Latvian enough but I don't want to complain about it  |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Apr 10, 2018 15:05:14 GMT 1
Indeed, it might seem weird but the rules say that covers are allowed and also in such a case, since the band is from Latvia, then the entry can represent the country. It might seem "lame" indeed, as you're saying, but it's still allowed. but it technically is not a cover, it wasn't officially released (official covers are e.g. Leona Lewis with "Run" or Ellie Goulding with "Your Song") and Bebe was the artist of the "original" version as well. If this gets allowed then for example cover performances of casting shows should be allowed as well (if they aren't so far) because it's basically the same situation What I call a cover is a song that is different from the original, but with the same lyrics... even if it "technically" isn't a cover. Although, I don't understand, why multiple versions of one song sung by the same artist might not be called covers? You don't call them originals either, because it's the same song... and just because the cover hasn't been officially released (who knows, maybe it will be somday?) in an album or something like that, it doesn't mean it's not a cover... you can find thousands of covers on YT that have never been "officially released"! P.S. Don't worry - next time I'll use "latvian enough" artists... |
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Post by mimisthesc on Apr 10, 2018 15:05:53 GMT 1
Nobody said that cover performances of casting shows are not allowed. As long as the artist is from the country and the original version of the song (or any other cover of it) has not been sent before, the entry is eligible. We've even had some, for instance Montenegro in WWWSC #53. And this was the entry back then:
Well imo cover performances of casting shows shouldn't be allowed because covers aren't allowed in ESC either but I'm okay with casting performances then I still don't think the Latvian entry is Latvian enough but I don't want to complain about it Well, we are not really working exactly as ESC but if we actually did, since you've already said covers are not allowed there, we would also have to reject covers, meaning we'd have to look for an entry and see if it is a cover or not (which is very difficult, especially for songs from some non-European countries and really time consuming as well ). Those entries from casting shows etc. have the disadvantage of a quite "lower quality" audio in the recap as live performances hardly ever sound as good as the studio version, as well as the comparison with the studio version in general. In any case, thanks for sharing your thoughts and don't worry, it is not taken as a complaint or whatsoever.  |
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Post by Aliya on Apr 10, 2018 15:06:58 GMT 1
(well, hi there, entered in one random moment?)
 KAZAKHSTAN 
When it comes to Kazakh music industry and Kazakhstan as a nation, you need to focus on a few aspects: the ethnic elements (which unfortunately won't leave us anytime soon lmao, but oh well) and the song in itself.
And with all said, we're back. For now, at least.
The Kazakh representative this edition will be Bahyt Shadaeva with the song "Oyla". Hopefully you'll like it. ^^
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Post by Julian on Apr 10, 2018 15:22:57 GMT 1
but it technically is not a cover, it wasn't officially released (official covers are e.g. Leona Lewis with "Run" or Ellie Goulding with "Your Song") and Bebe was the artist of the "original" version as well. If this gets allowed then for example cover performances of casting shows should be allowed as well (if they aren't so far) because it's basically the same situation What I call a cover is a song that is different from the original, but with the same lyrics... even if it "technically" isn't a cover. Although, I don't understand, why multiple versions of one song sung by the same artist might not be called covers? You don't call them originals either, because it's the same song... and just because the cover hasn't been officially released (who knows, maybe it will be somday?) in an album or something like that, it doesn't mean it's not a cover... you can find thousands of covers on YT that have never been "officially released"! P.S. Don't worry - next time I'll use "latvian enough" artists... Well, according to wikipedia, a cover version is "a new performance or recording by someone other than the original artist or composer of a previously recorded, commercially released song." According to this definition, that performance isn't a real cover in my opinion because it still features Bebe. I would simply consider it as an alternative version of the original song and not as a cover. But Mimis already said that it's allowed to send songs like this so I don't want to argue about this  |
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Post by Shovkovskyi/Peter on Apr 10, 2018 15:36:18 GMT 1
What I call a cover is a song that is different from the original, but with the same lyrics... even if it "technically" isn't a cover. Although, I don't understand, why multiple versions of one song sung by the same artist might not be called covers? You don't call them originals either, because it's the same song... and just because the cover hasn't been officially released (who knows, maybe it will be somday?) in an album or something like that, it doesn't mean it's not a cover... you can find thousands of covers on YT that have never been "officially released"! P.S. Don't worry - next time I'll use "latvian enough" artists... Well, according to wikipedia, a cover version is "a new performance or recording by someone other than the original artist or composer of a previously recorded, commercially released song." According to this definition, that performance isn't a real cover in my opinion because it still features Bebe. I would simply consider it as an alternative version of the original song and not as a cover. But Mimis already said that it's allowed to send songs like this so I don't want to argue about this The idea of this all is that it's DFE's version of this song (basically their cover), only difference is that in usual covers original artist doesn't participate, but here Bebe also takes part in... basically Bebe took part in their cover of this song... I think all this wasn't really even worth bringing up publically, not even talking about some arguing, so let's just forget it... |
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Thank's! 
As long as the artist is from the country and the original version of the song (or any other cover of it) has not been sent before, the entry is eligible. We've even had some, for instance 
NEW ZEALAND IS BACK! 
Morocco sent a summer song
Morocco sent the popular singer Zouhair Bahaoui. Zouhair Bahaoui ft. TiiwTiiw & CHK will represent 
South Korea this edition
