Eurovision 2021 • General Discussion

[Shovkovskyi/Peter]

I know this might be like an Off topic between everyone's feelings about the contest and it's results, but I feel like it needs to be said.

And it's about Samanta, who everyone loved and supported since last year, but is unfortunately going down very fast.. and mostly because of her own fault... at first it seemed like she is just a confident woman, but after this Eurovision it's clear that she is not confident at all - she's just arrogant and full of herself. After the reveal of her being last in the whole competition, she has put another crucifix on herself by saying that she is proud of it (I mean how can you be proud about coming last?) and that she did everything as good as she could AND MORE!!! She said that her goal by taking part in Eurovision wasn't to fight for something, but to just fulfil her dream of participating in Eurovision. Saying that she basically poured more fuel to the fire. People in Latvia right now are really angry and I must say I'm not too happy either. People are unhappy, because the country had to spend tax payers money just for her to fulfil her dream. It's not like we are all millionaires here. If you don't go to compete, but just to enjoy the show live, then why take someone else's spot who would at least try to compete?

Previously I supported that Samanta was given another chance due to 2020 not happening, but right now I feel like she just played us all just to get her dream to come true... and for free (to her) in that matter...

Sorry for this, but it just felt like you need to know this...

[fabbi]

This has crossed my mind lately, but who are the contenders for this year's Barbara Dex award? I don't think we had anyone who was dressed badly.

[Grace]

I know I am going to get a lot of people who disagree with me on this one but that was by far the WORST Eurovision ever!

There was not a single song I liked and got so bored that by the time Moldova started to sing I turned it off.

I used to love Eurovision but if this is what a "strong", "brilliant", "best year in......" now looks like I guess it might not be for me now

Then to find out the UK failed so badly made it worse. Yes the song was not great but it 100% was not the worst one!

Sorry for my rant just feeling very annoyed about this years contest.

[Wys]

May 23, 2021 17:39:51 GMT 1 fabbi said:

This has crossed my mind lately, but who are the contenders for this year's Barbara Dex award? I don't think we had anyone who was dressed badly.

I really hope this doesn’t happen but maybe Roxen?
edit: and I think Albina might be top 5 i know a lot of Eurofans didnt like that outfit 

[fabbi]

May 23, 2021 18:18:17 GMT 1 Wys said:

May 23, 2021 17:39:51 GMT 1 fabbi said:

This has crossed my mind lately, but who are the contenders for this year's Barbara Dex award? I don't think we had anyone who was dressed badly.

I really hope this doesn’t happen but maybe Roxen?
edit: and I think Albina might be top 5 i know a lot of Eurofans didnt like that outfit 

I just watched a recap of all performances to remind myself of the ones we heard only once. And yeah these 2 both have quite good chances. I'd add Australia and we have a "fitting" top 3 lol.

[European Ananas]

May 23, 2021 17:39:51 GMT 1 fabbi said:

This has crossed my mind lately, but who are the contenders for this year's Barbara Dex award? I don't think we had anyone who was dressed badly.

I'd personally say that I would put James Newman and Samanta Tina into the Barbara Dex bag. Also that might be controversial but I wasn't a fan of Måneskin's outfits at all. 
Who else? Maybe Jendrik? Senhit and Flo Rida? Tusse? I dunno... 

[fabbi]

Alright time for a serious comment of mine now. It's probably a mess and since it's long I put it into a spoiler.

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Omg I almost freaked out yesterday night and got so happy I actually destroyed the glass mug standing in front of me on the floor lol.
Gjon achieved Switzerland's best result in 30 years. I always knew that this was to go well, but absolutely didn't expect him to win the juries. Hearing "Switzerland 12 points" was an experience at its own as well (since that never happened since I'm watching the contest) and especially so many times.
When the reveal of the televoting began I had hopes it may end up with a win as some thought, but the doubts came over me as soon as several others had received 200 points. What made me laugh towards the end however was him just sitting there being like "Wtf is going on?" and appearing like "I don't care anymore." Let me tell you that evening was such an experience for me.

About the results:
Italy: Finally Italy won after that could have happened already 4x within the last 5 years lol. I didn't find the group's performance that special, but they deserved this. Personally I had doubts about this however, and particularly when "enemy" Finland received 200 televoting points. If I may also say this: I know they probably had stuff to do, but it was so weird when they were all on their phones ...
Maybe we'll see a backup win incoming?

France: Barbara gave a really good vocal performance and you could totally see how much she was feeling her song. Generally a deserved runner up outcome. It looks so weird seeing France in top 3 though. But congrats for a new best result in also 30 years to our neighbours as well. And I hope that they will be able to keep that up because I actually have the feeling France is on the right way.
Lol we didn't just get 2 of the 6 Aqs top 2-ing and all the others bottom 4-ing.
Iceland: It was an entertaining performance and they deserved it. BTW. I just found out that this is Iceland's third best result. 😱 If the group achieved that with this song, then imagine what the much stronger Thinking about things would've done.
The only drop of bitterness is that they weren't able to attend the show in the arena, but at least it looks like they had fun gathered in their room. Also I love that Iceland is usually a rather weak Eurovision country, but is now on to a top 10 streak.
The guy who gave the points was amazing btw. - unlike Australia's with his champagne ...

Ukraine: Just like I wrote on Wednesday this was a really good staging and a really good vocal performance from Kateryna. Therefore Ukraine deserved it's top 3 in the televoting - and I loved their reaction about 260+ points. To me that was a shock too because just like written on Saturday afternoon I hadn't expected Western Europe to like her singing style. Yet it's always been clear to me that this was going to be good, but haven't expected it to become a top 5.

Finland: Now that's a surprise. I absolutely didn't see Finland to get even on the left side let alone almost top 5. Not the biggest fan of both song and staging, but congrats for the first top 10 in 15 years. I also love that now the entire Finnish top 3 is made of rock bands

Malta: Wow! Destiny was really good. Her staging may have been a bit too colourful, but she totally killed this. Malta's usual issue is that the island has hardly any "voting friends" for the televoting so it was clear Destiny was never going to get another 200 points there, but 47 really hurt ... :/

 Lithuania: I never really fell for this song, but 8th place seems about right. What bothers me the most here however is the fact that The Roop didn't get a new best result for Lithuania so that we still have to live with the horrid 2006 one ...

Russia: I'm not a fan of that song at all, but seeing this getting top 10 makes me happy. And that's just for the lyrics and what Manizha has underwent in the past.

Greece: Positive charisma and a good vocal performance. I imagine especially the high note in "dance" to be really hard to hit and she did it several times. The full staging is rather discussable, but thanks to her singing Stefania imo deserved her top 10. Also congrats to Greece for returning there are 8 years.

A very few "honourable mentions":
Sweden: 14th place was about okay for this song. However looking at the redults of the last few Swedish songs this is underrated. It was so weird warching a Eurovision voting and not hearing 1'000 times "12 points to Sweden".

Serbia: Yeah, they got where and what I thought them to. Getting the from the countries that are always doing so and basically nothing from everyone else. Speaking of the televoting only ofc.

Albania: Wow and I thought this would get Albania another one of its 16th / 17th ranks, but apparently not.

San Marino: I just love that we all were expecting a possible top 10 and said stuff like "Yeah this will surely get a new best result for the country." And then it didn't even beat the 2019 result. 



The televoting sequence this year was the absolutely most exciting one since it's introduction in 2016. I particularly loved how everyone was applauding each other. And the reactions to the were really cute - especially the UK. And Germany was hilarious.


The show itself was good although I didn't quite get the opening. Afrojack's interval act was amazing and I actually felt that little love story. The previous winners was a disappointment to me though. And the countdown shown by the dancers was an amazing idea. How did no one else ever come up with that idea?

And finally I would like to point out that it's amazing seeing for once the non-English songs dominating (4 / 5 of the top 5) and the top 7 were so owned by the Western countries. Both feel so weird when a) in the middle of the last decade (until Portugal won) everyone (including even Spain, Israel and Serbia) sang in English (Peak: 2015 / 2016) and b) in the 2000s they were literally invincible. E. g. remember 2008 when Norway was the only one in top 10?.

Btw. I just found this link where all the jury members are shown:
eurovisionworld.com/esc/they-decided-half-of-the-result-here-are-the-jury-members-of-eurovision-2021

[Þórir]

WOW.

Well it took us 2 years but we finally completed another edition of Eurovision and what an edition it was, perhaps my favorite so far!
My thoughts on the finalists:

United Kingdom - The song wasn't groundbreaking and the staging wasn't the best, but still damn 0 points is very harsh and unfair....
Germany - I knew this was either gonna be a huge success or a total failure for Germany, turned out to be the latter. Was fun still
Spain - I'm super happy this didn't come last but I feel it was a little robbed still, the fact Do It For Your Lover got more televote points is unbelievable...
Netherlands - I expected this down low and tbh as much as the message is amazing the song was a bit lacking.
San Marino - What the hell happened? This had all the makings of a top 10 performance, a good running order and yet fell apart...
Albania - About where I expected, amazing performance but a fairly mediocre song and the death slot never helps.
Azerbaijan - Another very "meh" entry, Efendi lacked stage presence tbh and this was lucky to even qualify considering.
Belgium - Surprised this got even to the finals, not at all a bad result considering that many expected they'd NQ,
Norway - About where I expected for this, very emotional (especially when he removed his glasses) but the song was no winner.
Israel - This feels very fair also, I expect the recent events had some negative affect on televotes but Eden can and should be proud either way
Cyprus - Knew this was getting Tamta'd, it got Tamta'd and then some more - Good song but not much more than that
Serbia - Lets be real now it was a messy performance but the song was better than I expected and this feels very fair of a result
Sweden - By Swedish standards this is a serious flop, their weakest entry in a long while - maybe next year we'll see something new from MF?
Moldova - Oh my god how the hell did this utter trainwreck do so well?!?! I'm genuinely baffled as it was such a mess
Portugal - To think we wrote them off like Georgia or North Macedonia... 12 is amazing and this just shows what good staging can do for a song
Bulgaria - When it came out it was a winner alert. The live was a bit too weak for that and it showed in the result.
Greece - Greece getting a top 10 with a decent song but very odd staging is a big surprise personally...
Russia - A risk was taken and it paid off, incredible to see something like this from them and hopefully paves the way to something even better
Lithuania - I thought this would get lost after the first rehearsals. I'm glad it didn't
Malta - This was 100% sabotaged by the running order but oh well, still a solid result and I dont think its the last we'll see of Destiny at all.
Finland - WOW. Totally deserved. Amazing song and performance and it was slept on my some but I knew this would top 10 easily.
Ukraine - This was a borderline Q not too long ago, that Chernobyl LSD really made us rethink our priorities... Absolutely incredible.
Iceland - I'm so proud of my country for finally getting back into top 5, and to do it on a rehearsal recording is mindblowing, Daði is a legend and always will be.  
Switerland - The rehearsals had me doubting it but when the Semi aired I just knew this was in it to win it, and it came soooo close.
France - I don't like this at all, but fortunately for France I'm not the only person in Europe Amazing how they've turned around recently, keep it up
Italy - It's been 10 years since they returned and came 2nd, every year coming so close and yet so far... Finally Italy have done it and they 100% deserve it! Måneskin had an amazing song and its fun to see something like this win - see you all next year in Italy!

[fabbi]

May 23, 2021 20:54:38 GMT 1 Þórir said:

Sweden - By Swedish standards this is a serious flop, their weakest entry in a long while - maybe next year we'll see something new from MF?

I kept saying that for years, but it never happened lol. This time now I have some more hopes since they now get a new person responsible and producer of the show.

[Joseph]

Ok I just want to get this out

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Not the best but not the worst. I was saying "this better not get zero" I knew you guys would complain again
Chantal and bar are S!sters. Anyways Germany had it coming.
Meh
I instantly knew this would get nothing after the first 3
Bruh San Marino spent so much money on Flo Rida and Serhat is still their best result?
Deserved better
I'm proud of her. We were 4 points away from 69 but i'm proud

I don't think his relationship with Efendi bought him 18th. I think he did this on his own
Robbery #whatever I stopped counting
Cyprus should just give up their "female pop songs with random Spanish words in it" formula. it worked with Fuego and that was enough
I mean I'm not sure how I feel about them not getting top 10 but they did a great job
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Ok I'm not mad but of course I thought this was gonna do better because it's Sweden. Get like a million twelve points from the juries just for the televotes to give them like 5 points. I'm speechless to be honest
She did a great job honestly. But if the EBU is trying to ban or suspend Belarusian TV, they should ban Kirkorov too. It was this year I had enough of seeing his stupid face on television every May
When this qualified, I instantly knew it was a song for the juries. It was a lot bettr than I expected
She was fantastic and I'm glad shes on the left
My cousin and I were pointing out the technical difficulties with the green screen because Fokas Fucking Evangelinos. But she saved the performance and thats why she got 10th. So happy to see Greece in the top 10 again
This went from my family talking shit about the song to growing on a couple people and getting ninth. I love an evolution
Honestly, I knew Ireland, UK, and Norway would give them 12 in the televoting. But they put on a show and that went well
Maybe the biggest disappointment? I was expecting a top 5. But the fact that Destiny looked into the camera and said "it's ok" made me really happy because it shows how much she has grown. Hopefully Malta wins real soon
I had a good time during their performance. And this is when I really started to realize how this years was the most diverse top 10 I've ever seen
All different kinds of music and languages are welcome. I think I had more fun with this than Finland and now I'm more excited for thr 4th Matrix movie
I loved seeing them so happy in that room. That performance was so much fun
Probably the best vocal performance of the night. Switzerland got 4th, then 3rd. So next year maybe they'll get 2nd, and finally win the year after. Reto Peritz is taking Switzerland to new heights
Also a beautiful performance. I love the emotion she brings to her song and I think because most of my family grew up with this kind of music, this was the family favorite
I feel like there was only one person who was happier than me and maybe possibly you: Nuray. Ever since Italy returned, she loved majority of the songs. Marco Mengoni was her favorite, Il Volo, Francesco Gabbani, and of course Mahmood. I told her "You should move to Italy" like my family tells me "You should move to Sweden" she loves Maneskins album. I guess the truth is rock and roll never dies

This was the first time since i started watching that none of the top 3 was in English so thats very cool. So basically Italy hosting next year means watching the Lizzie McGuire movie all over again. Congrats to the Italian users reading this. I'm so proud of the Dutch for making sure this happened again, I'm so thankful I have this community and I can't wait to talk about it more next year in Italy. Ciao.