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Post by mimisthesc on Jan 13, 2022 13:39:23 GMT 1
 Thailand confirms! Recap from 2:22 I am afraid that Thailand is taken. Besides, you can only take part in the contest representing your own country.  |
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Post by Chante™ on Jan 13, 2022 17:21:14 GMT 1
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Post by mimisthesc on Jan 13, 2022 18:12:50 GMT 1
 コンフェールム  ビオレットワウティエア 「ドライブ」 Violette Wautier - Drive will update later I am afraid that the connection of Violette to Japan is not strong enough to make her eligible for the country. According to multiple sources online, she might have been born there but none of her parents is Japanese and she only stayed in the country for a very short amount of time, thus not enough to grant her the citizenship at least. If there is any evidence proving a stronger connection to the country, then you may share that but otherwise the entry needs to be changed.  |
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Post by Lux on Jan 13, 2022 18:30:16 GMT 1
コンフェールム ビオレットワウティエア 「ドライブ」 Violette Wautier - Drive will update later I am afraid that the connection of Violette to Japan is not strong enough to make her eligible for the country. According to multiple sources online, she might have been born there but none of her parents is Japanese and she only stayed in the country for a very short amount of time, thus not enough to grant her the citizenship at least. If there is any evidence proving a stronger connection to the country, then you may share that but otherwise the entry needs to be changed.  err, this statement feels very iffy. she was literally born in Japan. just because her parents are foreign to the country she was born in, does not make her any less Japanese. |
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Post by mimisthesc on Jan 13, 2022 18:41:00 GMT 1
I am afraid that the connection of Violette to Japan is not strong enough to make her eligible for the country. According to multiple sources online, she might have been born there but none of her parents is Japanese and she only stayed in the country for a very short amount of time, thus not enough to grant her the citizenship at least. If there is any evidence proving a stronger connection to the country, then you may share that but otherwise the entry needs to be changed. err, this statement feels very iffy. she was literally born in Japan. just because her parents are foreign to the country she was born in, does not make her any less Japanese. Being born in a country just because your parents happened (or wanted) to be there does not mean you get the citizenship or whatsoever. Jus sanguinis is applied in most states worldwide (including Japan) and the fact she and her parents only stayed there for a very small amount of time after her birth is not enough for the contest. |
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Post by Chante™ on Jan 13, 2022 18:49:14 GMT 1
コンフェールム ビオレットワウティエア 「ドライブ」 Violette Wautier - Drive will update later I am afraid that the connection of Violette to Japan is not strong enough to make her eligible for the country. According to multiple sources online, she might have been born there but none of her parents is Japanese and she only stayed in the country for a very short amount of time, thus not enough to grant her the citizenship at least. If there is any evidence proving a stronger connection to the country, then you may share that but otherwise the entry needs to be changed. she has a very similar connection to japan as did cl. hell, violette has more of a connection than cl. accepting cl but not violette is very strange. additionally, your argument for citizenship is completely bs, as her parents were eligible to gain citizenship, and there is no citizenship by birth law in japan. the arguments you are using to justify this are iffy at best and just flat out stupid otherwise |
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Post by Chante™ on Jan 13, 2022 18:53:28 GMT 1
I am afraid that the connection of Violette to Japan is not strong enough to make her eligible for the country. According to multiple sources online, she might have been born there but none of her parents is Japanese and she only stayed in the country for a very short amount of time, thus not enough to grant her the citizenship at least. If there is any evidence proving a stronger connection to the country, then you may share that but otherwise the entry needs to be changed. she has a very similar connection to japan as did cl. hell, violette has more of a connection than cl. accepting cl but not violette is very strange. additionally, your argument for citizenship is completely bs, as her parents were eligible to gain citizenship, and there is no citizenship by birth law in japan. the arguments you are using to justify this are iffy at best and just flat out stupid otherwise plus, you seem to pull out this card to reject songs in the most inconsistent ways. you'll accept alicia keys for jamaica and cl for japan and bloody jamala for kyrgyzstan, but suddenly iveta isn't available for germany and violette isn't available for japan. if you are gonna do this at least be consistent in how you judge it |
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Post by ferrygraf on Jan 13, 2022 19:46:43 GMT 1
she has a very similar connection to japan as did cl. hell, violette has more of a connection than cl. accepting cl but not violette is very strange. additionally, your argument for citizenship is completely bs, as her parents were eligible to gain citizenship, and there is no citizenship by birth law in japan. the arguments you are using to justify this are iffy at best and just flat out stupid otherwise plus, you seem to pull out this card to reject songs in the most inconsistent ways. you'll accept alicia keys for jamaica and cl for japan and bloody jamala for kyrgyzstan, but suddenly iveta isn't available for germany and violette isn't available for japan. if you are gonna do this at least be consistent in how you judge it We're not perfect, maybe not all decisions in the past have been perfect and some might be done differently nowadays. Doesn't change the fact we have the final say about entries and Violette Wautier isn't accepted for Japan as we don't see enough connection. I feel like some people just wait for some "mistakes" or unclear situations and then jump at us at any opportunity. And that is honestly just irritating. The example you mentioned above (Alicia Keys for Jamaica) has been brought up over and over, maybe it wasn't the smartest decision to allow her, I'll give you that. But at some point it should be enough. People can also just go for singers that are clearly from country xy and not go for such cases that are on the borderline of the rules, there's always potential for interpretation there and people might agree or not agree with it. The way you're going at us is very uncalled for and if you don't like how we run the contest, idk why you even participate. |
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Post by Laurinda on Jan 13, 2022 20:38:35 GMT 1
The rule has always been at least one parent of the artist must be from the country it represents  There are possible exceptions, but people get too hung up on it. It's an exception for a reason... I find it funny and disappointing that the bigger countries try to look for loopholes and the smaller ones rarely. |
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Post by hongarius on Jan 14, 2022 13:06:17 GMT 1
Looks like I missed some drama here in this thread  Even if I'm eligible to send Violette Wautier as well, I don't think I would send her in a normal edition because she does not have a career in Belgium (before Thailand sent her to the contest, I didn't even know about her existence). Not sure if she is famous in Japan, but Japan has such a huge music scene, I feel it would be a bit strange that as a Japanese, you would prefer to send a non-domestic act considering the immense music industry in the country. Anyway, this is just my opinion  That being said, here is the Belgian entry: Belgium RORI - "The Same Way"TS: 2:13+ |
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Even if I'm eligible to send Violette Wautier as well, I don't think I would send her in a normal edition because she does not have a career in